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    emmapannell
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    Good afternoon
    (I have searched for historical discussion on this but to no avail)

    How do you all manage debt from residents who no longer live at the almshouses. Perhaps i) they have moved out to live elsewhere – eg long term care, and will not or can not engage with the issue, leaving behind debt and ii) they have died – and have no next of kin to discuss the issue with.

    Has anyone taken out insurance to cover such difficult to recover debts? Has anyone found a way to appoint someone as LPOA for that resident with no next of kin?
    Thanks for any ideas or experience.
    Emma

    #148739
    MGA2001
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    Hi Emma,

    We try and manage debts that residents owe promptly. We mitigate this risk by keeping track of the monthly payments and if someone is behind then we write to them. Obviously, it is a bit too late for you to do this. We do have a resident who was very poorly and is in rent arrears, and we have asked them to pay a little bit more each month to pay this off. It would not look favourable on a charity that provides affordable accommodation to those who are most in need to start involving debt collectors. It would be advisable to get in touch with the individual as soon as possible as offer support and help through the local council, and suggest even reaching out to social services.

    The chances and reality is that if they couldn’t afford the rent, and were a beneficiary of the charity then their estate will be very minimal and may not have the funds to pay back any rent debt.

    We advise our residents to provide us with next of kin details, and to put in place a Will. There is usually someone appointed as an executor or working in a professional capacity who can help if someone has died intestate. Debts can be recovered from an estate, but only if there are funds available.

    I’m not sure about insurance to recover debts. having an eviction policy if rent payments are not paid may be the solution.

    You will not be able to legally appoint someone as another persons POA. Only that person can give instructions to appoint a POA. I would be very mindful of this, especially as most residents could be categorised as financially vulnerable. If a resident has capacity, and is struggling with their finances or health and would like to appoint an attorney then your safest and best route is to suggest to them that they meet with a solicitor and take independent advice. If they do not have capacity, then a deputyship order can be made but this is costly, lengthy, and time consuming. The council pay be able to assist you. It is important that any instructions to make Lasting powers of attorney come from the individual and not their proposed attorney, otherwise this could be interpreted as undue influence or coercion to gain control of a vulnerable person’s finances.

    Solicitors can act as attorneys in a professional capacity, but they may charge a high fee and by the hour. Your best bet is to discuss this with the individual in the first instance and put them in touch with a solicitor who can help or give advice.

    In hindsight, these situations can be avoided by having plans, procedures, and recommendations in place for residents to consider.

    I hope this helps you to some degree. It might be worth phoning a local solicitor – where are you based?

    #148747
    emmapannell
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    Hi – thanks so much for your detailed response. We have very clear and very well managed processes in place to deal with debt which may start to build up with current residents. That works OK – and we agree repayment plans etc.

    Every situation is different of course but one of our examples was a resident who went eventually (from assessment unit) into long-term care, but due to no official next of kin – and no contact with the resident, their housing benefit then stopped, and the flat was not cleared and handed over for several weeks, building up WMC debt.

    I take your point about difficulty with POA – and this is such a sensitive subject that mostly people don’t want to touch it with a barge pole.

    As a charity which exists to use its funds to provide housing, we have a duty to try to recover debt where we can. We’ll continue looking into any insurance which may exist to cover this situation (for residential landlords there are many options around this of course).

    But if anyone has other experience, would be good to hear. Thanks again.

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    MGA2001
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    Hi Emma,

    When we have residents pass away, the charity will take on the burden of any rent payments from the date of death to the new tenant moving in.
    We have never had a resident move into a care home, but I would imagine that once the resident has moved out, the council will have to start paying care home fees in place of the rent as the resident is no longer residing at the property.

    Talking to the local council in charge of the residents care would be the first place to look to be reimbursed. The council may be the people you need to get in touch with regards to the rent debts.

    Thanks,

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